President of Council Kathy McNear called Council to order on June 5, 2002, at 7:00 p.m.
The governmental body and those in attendance recited the pledge of allegiance.
Mr. Knox took roll call. Present were Council members Danbury, Galster, Pollitt, Squires, Vanover, and McNear. Mr. Wilson was absent.
The minutes of May 15, 2002 were approved with four affirmative votes. Mr. Vanover abstained. Ms. Pollitt was absent for the vote.
Mr. Knox said I received a letter from one of the Hamilton County Commissioners. It said: "Thank you for your trust and confidence you placed in the Hamilton County Home Improvement Program that will provide low interest home improvement loans to your constituents at 3% below the market rate. . . The program will be launched Monday, June 3. That date incidentally begins National Home Ownership Month and affords you an opportunity to promote home ownership and this program. .."
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APPOINTMENT OF DAN SHROYER AS FIRE CHIEF
Mayor Webster said I feel quite lucky to be mayor of this city at this particular time because the mayor gets to appoint the next fire chief for the City of Springdale. We have certainly been blessed over the years. This will be our third full-time fire chief. We think there were only two volunteer fire chiefs before that. Weíre very proud of Daniel Shroyer and it gives me a great deal of pleasure to make that appointment. Thereís not a week that goes by that I donít receive positive comment cards from not only our constituents in the city but people traveling through the city who have been helped in some way by the Springdale Fire Department or medics. You guys do a wonderful job and weíre extremely proud of you and Iím sure you will give your full support behind your new chief. Mayor Webster swore in Dan Shroyer as chief.
Chief Shroyer said I had some thoughts together but that was before seeing twenty or more uniformed firefighters show up. That was something I had not expected. As much as I appreciate you being here you threw me off my game. I would like to thank and acknowledge my wife and two sons. My involvement in the fire service has been pretty much a family career. I started almost twenty-five years ago as a volunteer. The fire service is not somebodyís career. It ends up being a familyís career. They have certainly been a part of that and I wouldnít be standing here tonight without them. The other reason I am able to stand here tonight is twenty-five years of support from not only this Council, but previous Councils, this Administration and previous administrations. The City of Springdale has invested twenty-five years into growing their own fire chief. I certainly am appreciative of that. I may have gone to the classes and read the books and I may have tried to learn something every time I had an opportunity, but I didnít make myself a fire chief. There are an awful lot of people who have been involved in making that happen. Every day is an opportunity to make sure all of those people get a return on their investment and thatís how I approach every day. Given the opportunity to choose what job I would like to go to tomorrow morning, I think you would probably find me at the coffee pot in the firehouse catching up on last night with last nightís guys getting ready to leave and todayís guys getting ready to start another day. I want to thank everybody involved currently and everybody who has been involved in the twenty-five years that I have been here.
Mrs. McNear expressed thanks for all you have done in the past twenty-five years and congratulations.
Mr. Squires said it is nice to have you have a neighbor and as fire chief in the best fire department in all of Hamilton County.
Mr. Danbury said the husbands and wives of firefighters deserve a lot of gratitude. You try to plan things for Christmas, holidays, birthdays but you canít because they are gone for more than a day at a time. Dan was born and raised here in Springdale. I think itís nice to see someone who grew up here now be the Fire Chief.
Mr. Osborn said I want to add my congratulations. This is a critical time in the department. We are going through some growth experiences and I think Chief Shroyer has a positive attitude that will help us to continue to improve on the gains we have made over the past few months and years. I think there is nothing holding us back from having an excellent department all around. I also want to congratulate and recognize the members of our fire department on their tireless and unselfish service. You have done far more than most of us know. We have been requiring a lot of overtime lately and we have been trying to staff up and get more people in there. You have helped us through this period when we were short on full-time people and we hope to get those numbers up. I think this is a good fit. Dan is coming into this position when we need that fresh look in leadership. I think this will prove to be a solid decision and good outcome for the future.
RESOLUTION R16-2002 "COMMENDING GARY THOMPSON FOR HIS DEDICATION AND SERVICE TO THE CITY OF SPRINGDALE"
Mr. Vanover made a motion to adopt and Mr. Squires seconded.
Mr. Vanover said my introduction to Gary started when I began coaching baseball. If there were any problems I could call Gary and they were taken care of. I know Gary is not going to disappear but thanks for everything.
Mr. Danbury said no one has been more in contact with as many people as Gary Thompson. In thirty years Gary has seen over 100,000 people come through there. When you think of the Rec Center you think of Gary. He taught a lot of our kids what teamwork is like. A lot of people look at you with respect. Youíve been a good friend and I donít want to see you go. Thank you for all the years of service.
Ms. Pollitt said when I first met you we were trying to organize a soccer team. We finished the season but we would never have done it without your help. It didnít matter if it was sports, FRYs or Springdale Homemakers, we always knew that we could come into your office and get help for whatever we needed. Enjoy your retirement.
Mr. Osborn said we would have had to add several sheets to this resolution if we had put all the whereases on there and outlined the things that youíve done for this community. You were a volunteer firefighter back a number of years. Youíve always been our go-to guy at the Community Center when there were mechanical issues, construction issues. You designed the layout of the landscaping that we had before the remodeling of the building and built it yourself. It was your plan and execution. Youíve always had a high standard. Youíve always been very loyal to the community.
Jim Burton said Dan, let me be the first of the department directors to congratulate you and thank you and your department for the many times you have assisted us.
Mr. Burton continued it is tough to find the words. I know Gary spent many birthdays and holidays and family times at work because we are open about 95 hours a week. Gary had dedication to the youth of the community. No matter what shift he was on he didnít leave at the end of the shift. Since April 15 Gary has taken a tremendous amount of time to work with Jacqueline Rau, his replacement. He took the interest of the young people to heart and his efforts are not going to be duplicated. Iíll certainly miss his comradeship and professionalism and wish him nothing but the best.
Mayor Webster said Iím probably the only one sitting up here who can remember Gary and his first day on the job in 1972. I also have interfaced with Gary as a player in some of the adult leagues, later as a coach, recently as mayor and most recently as a member of the Springdale-Forest Park Lions Club. I have always found Gary to be very professional, very dedicated to whatever he has undertaken. Gary was a dedicated member of the Fire Department at a time when we were begging to get volunteers for our Fire Department. Thank you very much for everything you have done for the city.
Mr. Galster said I had an opportunity to become an assistant coach with Gary. It was an experience to coach with him because you got to learn how to coach the proper way. All the kids he has been involved with over those thirty years have learned a lot of lessons and he has shaped a lot of those kids into well-rounded individuals.
Mrs. McNear said we are going to miss you. It wonít seem like the Rec Center without you there. Our thanks to you.
Mr. Thompson said itís been a long thirty years. Iíve seen some kids grow into adults and now theyíre raising their families here. Itís been an experience and a pleasure. Iím sure Jackie will do a great job.
Resolution R16-2002 passed with six affirmative votes.
ORDINANCE NO. 29-2002 "AMENDING THE ZONING CODE ARTICLE 2 DEFINITIONS "TEEN CLUB"; SECTION 153.201(G) AND (H) PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USES, SECTION 153.216(U) PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USES, SECTION 153.218 (F) CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED USES, SECTION 153.231(Q) & (R) PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USES, SECTION 153.246(H) & (I) PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USES, SECTION 153.261(H) & (I) PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USES, SECTION 153.497(B) RELIGIOUS PLACES OF WORSHIP, SECTION 153.431 PERMITTED BUILDINGS AND USES, SECTION 153.502(F) OFF STREET PARKING & DESIGN STANDARDS, SECTION 153.422(D) PROCEDURES, SECTION 153.491 ACCESSORY USES NOT PERMITTED-RESIDENTIAL, OFFICE, PUBLIC FACILITIES AND BUSINESS DISTRICTS, SECTION 153.482(C) FENCES, WALLS AND HEDGES, SECTION 153.707(D) & (F) FORMAL ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES"
Mr. Danbury made a motion to read by title only. Mr. Galster seconded. The motion passed with six affirmative votes.
Mr. Osborn said this ordinance is cleaning up several sections of the Zoning Code. One of those is introducing "teen club" as a permitted use in general business districts. Some of the others relate to alterations of the Zoning Code to allow churches as permitted uses in industrial and commercial districts. Another section modifies prohibition on SOBs from the PUD districts. Previously we had required curbing and parking blocks around the perimeter of a parking lot. That was erroneously omitted from the new code and we are putting it back in. A special procedural section exists in the Code for the corridor review district which requires Planning Commission and the developer to follow procedures different from the norm. There is no reason for this difference. We are trying to square up the corridor review district requirements and procedures with the Zoning Code districts. The next section prohibits an inoperative and unlicensed vehicle from being parked on a trailer or other vehicle on properties. We have language specific to parking on a driveway but there is a loophole about them being parked on trailers. 153.482 requires the finished side of fences to face the right-of-way or adjacent properties. 153.707 corrects an incorrect paragraph reference.
The public hearing was closed.
ORDINANCE NO. 30-2002 "AMENDING THE ZONING CODE ARTICLE 2 DEFINITIONS "KENNEL/CATTERY", "ANIMAL HOSPITAL/VETERINARIAN OFFICE", "NON-DOMESTIC HOUSEHOLD ANIMALS", SECTION 153.216 PRINCIPALLY PERMITTED USES, SECTION 153.496 HOUSEHOLD DOMESTICATED PETS, DOMESTICATED FARM ANIMALS, ANIMAL HUSBANDRY"
Mayor Webster asked shouldnít the public hearing for this ordinance and the one before be continued until the next meeting? Mr. Schneider stated the public hearing was advertised for tonight and should be closed tonight. Council can open it up for additional comments next week if a member of Council makes a motion to that affect.
The public hearing was closed.
ORDINANCE NO. 35-2002 "AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT RELATIVE TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF EAST KEMPER ROAD BETWEEN THE CITY OF SPRINGDALE AND THE BOARD OF HAMILTON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS"
Mr. Vanover made a motion to adopt and Mr. Squires seconded.
Ordinance 35-2002 passed with six affirmative votes.
ORDINANCE NO. 38-2002"DECLARING SIX VEHICLES AS SURPLUS PROPERTY AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR TO ADVERTISE, AUCTION AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR SALE OF SAID VEHICLES AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY"
Mr. Squires made a motion to adopt and Ms. Pollitt seconded.
Mr. Osborn said at your last meeting I described five vehicles to you that we would propose to surplus and sell through auction. Since that time another vehicle has been identified by the Building Department as surplus and in a condition we donít feel is appropriate to maintain. Itís a 1991 Corsica.
Ordinance 38-2002 passed with six affirmative votes.
ORDINANCE NO. 39-2002 "ADOPTING AN AMENDED SPRINGDALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN"
Mr. Osborn said there will be a presentation at the next Council meeting by the consultant that lead the City through this exercise.
ORDINANCE NO. 40-2002 "AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING AN AUXILIARY POLICE UNIT WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF SPRINGDALE, OHIO"
Mr. Danbury asked how many people are we looking at utilizing the next couple of years?
Chief Laage replied we have not looked at numbers. It depends on if we find the right candidate and there are retirements within our own department. We feel that there are a number of uses within the department in support areas and within the Community Center areas. This is not for general patrol work.
Mr. Danbury asked would applicants be currently under employment with the City of Springdale or people who had retired in the last five to ten years?
Chief Laage responded all officers currently with the department will have the opportunity to apply. They will be able to apply much easier than officers who have retired in the past. There are strict rules and regulations regarding training requirements from the Ohio Peace Officer Training Academy. Once your expiration within a full-time capacity as a law enforcement officer reaches two years there is significant training. We wanted to get it in place now since there are a number of officers on the force that are eligible to retire.
Mayor Webster if someone had been retired more than two years and lost their certification and they decided to get that, would they get it at their own expense?
Chief Laage answered at the present time we have talked to one officer and it would be on his own clock.
Mayor Webster asked is that something we need to spell out in the ordinance?
Mr. Osborn said we are taking it case by case. Itís very unlikely that we would take someone who has retired more than two years out. We have one lieutenant who retired a little over a year ago and a lot of his credentials are still valid. He has 40 hours to make up through additional training. We may pay for tuition costs but he goes on his own time. The ordinance has been written broad enough that if a good candidate applies from another department and we feel we need that person, we have the ability to add a non-Springdale person to this auxiliary. This is a real opportunity to take advantage of a potential negative. Weíre losing experienced police officers. Here we have the opportunity to bring them back for routine type tasks and free up the younger officers for the more aggressive patrol duties. It also provides these officers an opportunity for additional employment during their retirement years.
Mayor Webster said I whole-heartedly support this. One of the areas I have always been concerned about is fire lane violations at the shopping centers, supermarkets, etc. An officer would probably pay for himself just in fire violations.
Mr. Danbury said the key advantage is that we are able to retain some key people with a lot of knowledge that can be imparted on some of the younger officers.
Ms. Pollitt said I would assume this would decrease your overtime.
Chief Laage replied possibly. There is a substantial amount of overtime for patrol duties. This will not supplement patrol but be specialized assignments.
ORDINANCE NO. 41-2002 "AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING AN URBAN RENEWAL AREA AND AUTHORIZING THE PREPARATION OF AN URBAN RENEWAL PLAN FOR THE CITY OF SPRINGDALE, OHIO"
Mr. Osborn said associated with this ordinance was a copy of a study prepared by our City Planner which was distributed to you on Friday with the Council packet. There will be a presentation by the planner at the next meeting.
ORDINANCE NO. 42-2002 "AMENDING THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF SPRINGDALE, OHIO, TO ADD CHAPTER 122: LOCATION AND OPERATION OF TEEN CLUBS AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY"
Mr. Osborn said I appreciate your consideration of extending the ordinanceís review to two meetings. This is a new area for us and we want to get it right. The Law Directorís office has been working diligently on it but we want some time to be sure it is prepared appropriately. I thought this evening it might be reasonable to ask the Police Chief to address Council. When we learned that a teen club was looking to come into Springdale it brought to mind a number of the articles we have seen in the papers regarding teen clubs in other jurisdictions. Chief Laage did some research and concluded that there was substantial enough concern that in order to protect the public peace, health, safety and welfare that the City should implement regulations that do not prohibit teen clubs but regulate them in way that they will be in the best interest of the community and the residents of the community.
Chief Laage stated during the last couple of weeks we contacted municipalities within the Cincinnati area that have or have had teen clubs. They can successfully operate but the vast majority of times there have been serious issues. We have seen problems that have existed in other communities and I do believe potential problems could occur here if one were to operate. There were a number of inquiries to the police departments in these areas from parents asking is it safe to send my child there. Some allow parents in; some do not. In the business area where these clubs are located, there are an awful lot of calls in regards to the crowds. When there are crowded conditions within the premise they tend to expand to the adjoining properties. There have been problems with litter, damage, loitering. There have been problems with residential areas also with loud stereos during the early morning hours. We have had information that some of the attractions and promotions that some of these clubs have to attract teens are underwear parties, free admission to girls willing to take their tops off and dance, teenagers exposing themselves, sexiest body contests. There were contests where the bouncers at the club were actually joining in. I think we have to be very careful in regards to the regulations of these types of businesses. They can operate safely but the vast majority of municipalities that we talked with have encountered a number of problems. There are issues such as how do we get in and work these things. A lot of us cannot disguise ourselves as teenagers. Is there an officer always working? Is there a security officer working? Sometimes we canít supply 50% of the off-duty requests. A number of teens become intoxicated. We see this at the cinemas sometimes. I think we have to be careful when we are operating a business within the community that attracts the party style. In the past few years there have been very serious incidents at very large gatherings. I just received the ordinance from Mr. Schneiderís office. I think it is a good ordinance but I would like time to review it further. I think we need to look at this very closely to make sure that we donít have problems going in. A lot of our business areas and residential areas are in close proximity and we face issues such as loud speakers in car parking lots, alarms going off at businesses. We try to work together with the business and residential community to make this a good place to live and work. Sometimes itís very difficult and I think this is a very serious issue that could affect, not only our teens and teens from other areas, but also our residents who have to suffer through the noise, litter and other problems.
Ms. Pollitt asked how many clubs are operating in the Cincinnati area that you are aware of?
Chief Laage replied fewer than ten. The vast majority that I know of have shut down.
Ms. Pollitt said you said they expected 200 people. What did their numbers swell to?
Chief Laage responded one was an amusement area. It started out as a teen dance night. They were going to have this once a week. It swelled to 700-800 kids. When the numbers grew, the misbehaviors began.
Ms. Pollitt asked what is the age of the teens who attend? Is there a limit on the age limit they allow in?
Chief Laage stated some teen clubs donít allow adults in. Others do allow adults in.
Ms. Pollitt said it would be a concern of mine if you have teenagers exposed to older adults.
Chief Laage stated we brought this up also. Do you allow a parent or non-parent in? Do you allow an 18 or 19 year old in? Do you allow a 50 year old in? These are issues you have to look at.
Ms. Pollitt said I know the skating rink in Sharonville also had problems that spread out into the neighborhood.
Chief Laage stated a skating rink is not a teen club but they do have their youth nights. Sharonville had serious problems extending out onto the Kemper Road business section. It got out of control.
Ms. Pollitt said our residents are fantastic residents. They put up with the demands that the business community on our services here in Springdale and I think we have a really good working relationship with the businesses and retail in Springdale, and the residents enjoy the fruits of that. But I would be very, very leery of exposing our teenagers to an experience that would not be good for them.
Mrs. McNear asked do you have any statistics on accidents that happen in the parking lot or nearby.
Chief Laage replied I do not. Time and time again the police details went up.
Mrs. McNear asked what about smoking? At the teen clubs where my children have gone, they have come home wreaking of cigarette smoke.
Chief Laage said that had not come up.
Mr. Knox asked what ages are we talking about?
Chief Laage replied a lot of them are 14 to 18. Do you let a 12 year old in? Do you let a 13 year old in? Do you let a 9 year old in? What kind of ID does a 12 or 13 year old have? Do I have the authority to go in and check that? This is not a liquor establishment. Liquor establishments have rules and some of the authority that law enforcement has in checking some of those premises. To me this is more critical than an alcohol establishment. I believe there should be proper supervision and we should be able to go in and check.
Ms. Pollitt said I would not want my child at any function or building that a parent is not allowed in. I donít think we need that kind of establishment in Springdale.
Mr. Galster said allowing parents into the club is in our ordinance but I still would have additional legal questions such as nobody over a certain age other than a parent or guardian. I think there are some legal issues that need to be looked at.
Chief Laage said we have a curfew in regards to age and the day of the week. I donít think we should allow businesses who cater to underage persons affected by this curfew to operate past that curfew. I think there should be an allowance for travel time. If our curfew is midnight for a certain age on a certain night, I donít think that business should be open until midnight.
Mr. Osborn said we have put a lot of time into the ordinance. We have tried to address most of the concerns that were identified by Chief Laage and we tried to do it in a fair way. If you see any area within the legislation that you would like us to re-examine or consider additional language, if you could get to Mr. Schneider and me with your comments, we would appreciate it so we could have an amended ordinance to you by your next meeting. Iíd also like to mention that there are some folks in the audience tonight who have an interest in bringing a teen club to Springdale. Perhaps you would like them to give you some feedback on what youíve said this evening.
Mr. Schneider said attorney Ira Berman is here with his clients who are planning to lease the property and operate the teen club.
Ms. Pollitt said on the issuance of a permit to anyone under the age of 18, is there any way to raise that to 25?
Mr. Osborn said Iíd have to defer to the law director. Mr. Schneider said Iíll put into consideration any questions that are brought forth.
Attorney Ira Berman said I feel very comfortable that the intent of my clients is to set up an establishment that will be quite viable and beneficial for the City. It will bring in additional revenue and jobs, but also protect the young people who come to the establishment. The types of establishments that have been described by the Police Chief, Iím sure do exist. I know problems with youth can occur and itís your duty as parents and representatives of the community to protect the individuals. I appreciate your interest and concerns. My clients attempted to research this prior to entering into an agreement to lease the property to see if the community had a strong opposition towards a center. They were aware of some of the problems that have occurred in other establishments. My clients are looking at a property on Boggs Lane, away from disturbing the public. The hours of operation would preclude most businesses from being bothered by a great deal of noise. My clients have attempted to address a number of these concerns. The ages will be from 15 to 19 years of age. They want strict controls and tight security. They want to have two uniformed Springdale police officers on premises at all times. They want to have a strict dress code: no sleeveless shirts for males, no hats or bandanas, no jerseys, hooded shirts or baggy pants, gang apparel, etc. Their concern is to have a more positive attitude towards youth. The proposed owners are Dave Wilson and Dave Wilson Jr. Dave Wilson Sr. has been owner and president of Butler Countyís youth baseball organization since 1995 and very active in baseball within that community. Heís used to organization. They wanted the hours to be 8 p.m. to 1:30 a.m. I know that Springdale has a 1:00 curfew and I am aware of the Chiefís concern. There will be 18 and 19 years old and police on premise so we would hope for the 1:30 a.m. closing but we understand whatever you happen to be comfortable with, weíll work with you. My clients will be happy to answer any questions you may have. Our object is to cooperate, not to create a problem. We welcome investigation. We didnít know about this before we made the investment. We wonder if there is some way to have a provisional operation so they can at least open their doors and not lose additional money. Alcohol will not be tolerated in this establishment. There is zero tolerance and anyone caught with drugs will be banned from the club. Parents will be able to gain access. They really didnít want to have a lot of older people entering the club. They donít want to have older, degenerate people hanging out there. One of the things they mentioned to me is that they would like to have a patio area for those over 18 to be able to go out and smoke. They might have a DJ. Itís not large enough for a full out band.
Mrs. McNear asked what is the limit of the number of kids allowed on the premises.
Mr. Dave Wilson, Sr. said the number would be regulated by the Fire Department occupancy code. I think it would be about 500.
Mr. Danbury asked what are the days you propose to operate and what would it cost to get in?
Mr. Wilson answered Fridays and Saturdays. It would cost $10 for admittance.
Mr. Danbury asked would the two police officers on the premises be at your expense? Mr. Wilson replied yes.
Mr. Danbury said you said the 18 and 19 year olds would be entitled to stay past the curfew hour. How are you going to enforce that?
Mr. Wilson replied I expected everyone 15 and over would be allowed to stay. Other communities have curfews that have teen clubs and the clubs close well after curfew. A substantial amount of teenagers come out of Show Case Cinemas at 1:30 or 2:00 a.m. but itís a substantial amount.
Mr. Danbury said it should be parents enforcing curfew, not the City. If you are open past the curfew I think you will find that ĺ of the people are underage. Due to the fact that there is no other teen club in this area, this is going to be a huge area. You will find good kids and bad kids. Because we are at the intersection of I-275 and I-75 you will find a lot of undesirable people here. You say alcohol and narcotics will not be tolerated. You have no control on how they get to your place or the condition they show up in. Narcotics can be hidden or taken prior to going in. I think itís a time bomb. Itís not close to any residential area but itís still close to businesses. Whoís responsible for picking up trash?
Mr. Wilson answered, me.
Mr. Danbury asked do we have this in writing? A lot of people come in and promise things. We have to hold somebody to it. We have to have a lot of assurances before we allow anything like this. We just built a teen club down the street that costs $8 million. We want our kids to go down there at our expense. For us to open it up for something like this, Iíve got a lot of reservations.
Mr. Squires asked why ages 15-19 rather than 15-18?
Mr. Wilson replied I think those are appropriate ages. A fourteen year old would be out of place and a twenty year old should be out of place.
Mr. Osborn said the ordinance before you is not an approval or disapproval of a specific club. Itís not authorizing or denying the ability for people to bring a teen club into the city. We are trying to put regulations into place that will control how people will operate teen clubs when they are brought into the city.
Mr. Galster said we have the Sexually Oriented Business ordinance. Itís not a desirable thing to have in the community but we canít say you canít have it so we have to make the best ordinance that we can in case somebody would decide to do that. It reminds me of when we did the wild and exotic animals ordinance. We had exotic animal owners come in and actually help write that. I think today Iíve actually learned some things they say they wouldnít allow that maybe we should have in here as well. Weíre trying to make sure, if itís going to happen, that we control it and come up with a project that is a manageable project as opposed to something similar to what we heard the police chief talk about. I want to protect my kids but my teenagers can go out and do something if Iím not paying attention so there are controls parents have to be working on all the time. We can put something into the ordinance on how to deal with that but we are not going to solve them all. Weíre going to have to come up with a pretty good foundation if, in fact, we are going to have to work with a club that would end up entering the City.
Mr. Vanover said Mr. Berman, you brought up that the security would be two Springdale police officers on duty.
Mr. Berman replied they will have twelve employees to help with security and supervision.
Mr. Wilson said some of the alternatives that teenagers have in unsupervised areas makes this a pretty good alternative to going to somebodyís house and having a party with no parents there or cruising around and getting into trouble.
Mr. Vanover said even with twelve you are looking at something like 50 to one for crowd control. Knowing the volatility that can transpire that concerns me. I am an involved parent but a lot of Chief Laageís enforcement is because there arenít involved parents. I agree with you in concept but itís going to be a hard sell.
Mr. Knox said an eighteen or nineteen year old can smoke. A seventeen year old cannot. How do you tell the difference between the two?
Mr. Wilson said when they enter they get a wristband.
Mr. Knox said you volunteered to pick up the litter on the property you will be leasing. What about the property on the city streets or other property?
Mr. Wilson replied thatís a tough question because whatís my litter?
Mr. Knox answered that is true but there is a club in northern Kentucky that is famous for people littering, making noise, down to doing things in public outside the area that is part of the ownership. Once you get off the ownerís property, who controls them?
Mr. Wilson responded I agree that teenagers can get out of control but they can get out of control at a high school football game, basketball game, Showcase Cinemas, every venue that teenagers attend. If you oppose this because teenagers get out of control, then you must oppose everything that teenagers do.
Mr. Osborn said I just want to revisit a point that Chief Laage made that the owners have the anticipation of having two off-duty police officers there working a detail. Off-duty details are run by the Police Association which is an organization not associated with the City of Springdale. Traditionally they have had more requests for off-duty details than they have personnel to fill them by 100%. I think itís not hard to say right now that we might be able to supply some police officers through our association, I donít think they could ever rely exclusively on Springdale officers. That doesnít mean they canít find some other source for off-duty police officers. The second thing I would ask about is parking. With a crowd approaching 500 people, where do they park?
Mr. Wilson said on our property. The landlord has some agreements with some of the adjacent properties for parking.
ORDINANCE NO. 43-2002 "AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CLERK OF COUNCIL/FINANCE DIRECTOR TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH CDS ASSOCIATES, INC., FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES RELATED TO THE RECONSTRUCTION OF ELM ALLEY AND DECLARING AN EMERGENCY"
Mr. Squires made a motion to adopt and Mr. Vanover seconded.
Ordinance 43-2002 passed with six affirmative votes.
RESOLUTION R15-2002 "APPOINTING _________________________ A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION"
There were no nominations.
Mr. Vanover made a motion to table and Mr. Squires seconded.
Resolution R15-2002 was tabled with six affirmative votes.
Mrs. McNear asked for a resolution honoring Mr. Whitaker for his service to the City.
Mr. Osborn said we received official notice that the City has been awarded our grant under the Clean Ohio Conservation Fund for the Beaver Run bank stabilization and reclamation. I want to see if our original legislation included the authorization to execute this agreement. If it did not I will bring legislation at the next meeting for that purpose.
Mr. Osborn continued at our public meeting on the Springdale streetscape project, the topic of a signalized intersection for Peach and Springfield Pike was brought up by a number of residents and we concluded that that would be a good addition for this project. That was not part of the original pole order that we made in December so we had to solicit proposals for the signal poles for that intersection. We have a proposal in hand for $26,169 for the poles. The Engineerís Office assures me that this is a very good price and recommends that we enter into an agreement to purchase these from the vendors. We will stockpile the poles and hire a contractor later in the year to erect the pole. We will have legislation at the next meeting to purchase the poles.
Mr. Knox said I would like to inform Council and the Administration that Ms. Thetford is going on vacation and Mrs. Holden will also be on vacation. Barb will be able to handle information before noon on Thursday before the next Council meeting. We would appreciate it if whatever needs to get in gets in early so she can complete the agenda. We will have someone to back her up but that person will not be as experienced as either she or Mrs. Holden.
Mr. Osborn said we will advertise the SR 4 streetscape project on June 11 with a bid opening July 2. You can anticipate an ordinance at the July meeting. Kemper Road Phase II will be advertised July 2 with a bid opening on July 23. Legislation will be at the August meeting. The Sharon Road/SR 4 project will be advertised July 30 with a bid opening on August 13. Legislation would be at the August meeting. The Elm Street improvements will be advertised August 1 with a bid opening on August 15.
Mr. Osborn said Mrs. McNear asked what is the bald spot on the I-275 infield at SR4. That is .7 acre that we have used Round Up to reduce the grass. We will use a seeder to plant sunflowers. In a month or two you will see sunflowers decorating that slope as it goes around the eastbound entrance ramp to I-275. In addition, we are planting wildflowers on the westbound exist ramp and eastbound entrance ramp to SR 4. These plantings are a very inexpensive way to bring some color to the inerstate area.
MEETINGS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
Planning Commission - June 11
Board of Zoning Appeals - June 18
Landscaping judging - June 30 Ė mid July
Mr. Danbury made a motion that Council go into a meeting as a whole to discuss real estate issues. Mr. Vanover seconded. The motion passed with six affirmative votes.
Council went into executive session at 9:12 p.m. and reconvened at 9:55 p.m.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE - none
Ordinance 29 - June 19
Ordinance 30 - June 19
Ordinance 39 - June 19
Ordinance 40 - June 19
Ordinance 41 - June 19
Ordinance 42 - June 19
Resolution 15 - June 19
UPDATE ON LEGISLATION STILL IN DEVELOPMENT
Resolution for Dave Whitaker - June 19
Streetscape poles for Peach St./SR 4 intersection - June 19
RECAP OF LEGISLATIVE ITEMS REQUESTED
Council adjourned at 9:57 p.m.
Edward F. Knox
Clerk of Council/Finance Director
Kathy McNear, President of Council